thinking dash i just heard from peter wayner who said people are going to want something different by the time 2020 rolls around. i think they want to hear about policy. we know big personality, that all plays. but i think maybe the american voter this time is yearning for something they're not getting right now. i don't know. what do you think, charley? >> i do think they want something different. probably somebody more measured, more kacareful in how they condt themselves. i'm not so sure policy will drive the day. joe biden isn't running a campaign on policy. pete buttigieg isn't focussed on policy. elizabeth warren is. i'm not sure it's going to drievl the election. it's more style and tone and an