american officials wants the russians to know about otherwise it wouldn't be leaked and somebody would deny it. so far the only person to deny it is the president. which makes you wonder, one, whether he even knows about it, or, two, what benefit he feels he's going to get with putin by pretending that it's not true. >> yeah. that is bewildering, isn't it? of course new poll numbers, this time from fox, the president's favorite. they don't look good, though, for president trump. showing him behind the top five democratic presidential candidates. how significant is that and can much be read into those numbers at this juncture? as you point out, it's early and after the 2016 polling errors, can we ever trust any of these polls? >> oh i think, you know, polls are difficult, particularly in a close race. and the last election was very close, and, of course, the polls nationally were pretty accurate.