done interviews with trump that he's complained about lighting. make up. angles. and on top of that, being a germophobe, coughing is a nonstarter for trump. >> mulvaney, technically the acting white house chief of staff. how embarrassing and awkward is this on his part to be humiliated by the president? >> no question it's awkward, but humiliation is kind of a prt of the job when you sign up to work in this white house. no question that donald trump can be intensely muir cure yal. that he can lash out at his staffers. so i think he knew what he was signing up with, but the question is how does this impact his standing. he's an intense loyalist and trump has liked him as a result. and you know his good golf game doesn't hurt either. but something like this could impact his standing potentially. >> jeff, you wanted to make one more point. >> i you know, i am p pro coughing. i don't know. i think you know, human beings