i think we're in a spot now none of this seems surprising, and as that quote points out in a very sort of sinister way, the more these kinds of accusations mouchbt, the bemount, the less seem to care about him and those who steadfastly support the president seem to even take him on, on this issue. >> that's true. as john said, we get numb and immune to them but this one, e. jean carroll does go further. legally and -- it's rape. unambiguous. it's rape. she was having a hard time saying it because she thinks it is victimhood, which she doesn't want. and her generation has a hard time saying that. she blames herself, et cetera, et cetera. we've heard women processing this out loud for the past three