the appropriate housing that has been given to these individuals who came into this country in an illegal way. it is clear from the former u.s. attorney general that they were trying to create a condition that was inhumane, thinking that that would prevent individuals from seeking refuge here. there's no question that as a result of that, and that kind of treatment, then there is an interconnection between this president and whatever takes place to those who want to enter this country legally in crossing the border. >> president trump, as you have heard, has repeatedly blamed president obama for this problem. do you wish to see president obama speak up? >> president trump, not by my words, he is a con man. ask marco rubio. go back to mitt romney, george w. bush, before the republican primary. that's who they all said he was,