policy front and so standing next to the woman who is the queen of policy in this debate, this is going to be a big test for him. >> one thing about warren she's shown the most adeptness at being a lecturn and being at a crowd and her town hall -- she's a teacher and used to standing in front of a classroom so the settings set up for her. if she performed well tonight it vaults her higher. >> there will be three women on the stage tonight, klobuchar and gabbert and warren. is there a risk for a man taking on a woman in a debate? we've seen different dynamics play out, there was rick lawio took on hillary clinton in 2000, when trump and hillary went at it. it can be difficult. >> absolutely. and it is something that having worked with male candidates who have had female moderators and male and female candidates mixed on the stage, you have to be