this isn't a photo op, right? and so the north koreans have no incentive whatsoever, economic or otherwise, to give up their nuclear arsenal. and until we have substantive talks and the president gets serious about these talks about denuclearization, then we're going to continue to give the north korean leader a place on the world stage and we get nothing out of it. scott, you're right, the prior presidents weren't even able to make this work. but donald trump's not making it work either other than the photo ops and these summits that really respect gettiaren't gett anywhere. >> president trump was asked what if kim jong-un doesn't show up, and here is what he said. >> reporter: you made this very public invitation to kim jong up. will it be a bad sign if he doesn't show up? >> no. of course i thought of that, if he doesn't, everybody will say oh, he was stood up by chairman kim. no, i understood that. it's very hard to -- he follows my twitter.