defender. i fought for putting housing in low-income housing in suburbia. and talking about eliminating red line and school districts should be consolidated in ways that made sense so in fact -- >> why didn't you fight it like this in the debate? >> in 30 seconds in come on, man. >> what happens most in a debate? people blow their time cue. that is the only person on a debate stage say i'm out of time. i didn't want to get in that scrum. do you think the american public looked at that debate and take me out of it and boy, i like the way that's being conducted. their showing themselves to do really well. come on, man. >> but they're going to come after you. >> sure they're going to come after me. >> were you prepared for them to come after me? >> i was prepared for them to come after me but not prepared for the person coming at me the way she did. she knew bowe and she knows me. and any way -- here is the deal. what i know and it is the good and bad news, the american people think they know me and they know me.