it usually happens in reverse. good on you. the secretary's statement, i'm glad there's new information, good, interesting play by him. your assessment of the case. while they must have something new, was most of this back there at that time. >> yes. a lot of this information was not only there, the palm beach police did an excellent job with this, they had an enormous amount of not only witness statements but corroborating evidence such as phone records that showed that there were communications between these girls and his schedulers or even in some cases him, himself had called some of these girls. >> what was the understanding at the time that made the leniency that happened the right move? >> well, i think it was in their mind, i mean, his lawyers, you know, he had kenneth starr and