type of people. what do you think about like the aocs and the bernies and the other people that are bringing more of the fire, man. isn't that where we are supposed to go. >> absolutely. but. >> we're old white guys. >> yeah. and nothing wrong with that. >> nothing wrong with that. but how do you -- aren't you worried though. >> it's a big tent that the democrats have. i had 15 plus people in my primary. running for governor. and you know, the whole spectrum, right. but you know we pretended that we were so far apart but in actuality it was close. we had 15 people all across the state august about the same thing, a big tent is a good thing not a bad thing. >> i think part of -- [ applause ] >> i think in politics we have to engender excitement obviously we have a little challenge in that regard. >> well. >> but we have to make sure that the people understand we're not just -- just spouting platitudes