transcend or last beyond today's hearing. >> there's a gap between what we believe is wrong conduct, wrong ways for people and political parties and groups to operate and what is lawful behavior. i'm looking for him to make very clear what and how to close that particular gap. for example, that trump tower meeting would be a prime example of how to say what might not be unlawful. but we want to legislate to make sure that it actually is. >> two things. one, further what we've been talking about from the first hearing. the second is distinct. but this testimony that's out there and is looming about olc opinion, the reason there's no indictment if, that gets undone or tweaked at all in this next hearing i think that's a big deal. and second, you know, continuing off of what laura said, on a going forward basis, what is the proper conduct the next time someone is trying to arrange a meeting at the trump tower, something like that, by either campaign or any campaign in the future? what is the proper conduct for someone on a campaign? that gets muddled. we talked about how bill barr