collusion is a behavior that's bad. you tried to access stolen goods. they didn't succeed, but they made the effort and -- that's collusion. >> that's what's in the report. >> i take collusion as essentially a synonym for conspiracy to commit a federal offense. >> the question to my mind is was it honorable behavior to willingly accept dirt -- >> prosecutors don't deal with whether it's honorable or not. >> i'm talking about congress. >> this is a talk show. i'm not a prosecutor anymore. you're not. we're talking about what's good for the country. is it honorable behavior? everybody retreats by blaming congress or saying it's not collusion. if the question is on a bipartisan basis we want good things to happen in america, and we want to have good guidelines and road maps for people should behave honorably in elections, i don't understand why it's so