little success in pushing to get the interview of the president. we decided that we didn't want to exercise the subpoena powers because of the necessity of expediting the end of the investigation. >> as i said that was a long winded way of saying it would take too long. did the answer make sense to you? >> what's in the report is he says he had sufficient evidence of the president intent. and there have you're trying to establish intent, and you can't get an interview of the subject. you go with circumstantial evidence. what's so compelling is right on page 13. volume 2. he references it. we believe we had sufficient evidence to assess the president's intent. what i want to say is mueller just it was going to take a long time or given how long it would