trump. one democrat's circular firing squad is a crucible from which the candidate will emergement joining us is new york senator kirsten gillibrand. thank you for joining us. news reporting says president obama is privately questioning the wisdom of the presidential candidates attacking his record. probably doesn't surprise anybody that he would be concerned about that. but he does have this 95% approval rating among democrats. is there a danger in going down this road? >> well, president obama was a great president and i think for a lot of us we're looking to figure out how to build on his accomplishments and build on his records. so what we're trying to do with obamacare specifically is how do we get to universal coverage that's affordable, and that's why a lot of people like medicare for all. i like the buy-in. i think it's exciting. i think it's an opportunity. but i think for all of us, the purpose of a presidential