they're words, actions, systems instructions. don, those things are violent. so, anything that would in any way shape or form, deny another person their sacred dignity. that's violent. >> how did we get here? >> that's -- >> how did we get to this point, where people are just openly deny racism, or feel emboldened to be racists. don't have to hide it anymore. how did we get here? >> well, you know what? i think that first of all, one thing we have to understand is this is a narrative that is deeply embedded within our country. and within our nation's history. and so, when we don't talk about it, as you have just suggested, when we don't face the truth of who we are. that's how we get here. >> i want to get your reaction to this before we run out of time. north carolina billboard paid for by gun shop owner.