actually ever become real and then you realized the power of those words or was it something else? >> i would just say that i have realized that the current administrators of 8 chan don't care that this is happening. they just feel like because of supreme court cases or whatever or whatever their reasoning is that they don't have to do anything. but it's going to affect the world at large in other communities. i wouldn't be surprised if the next administration is democratic if new laws are passed which make it impossible to run not only 8 chan but other sites like it. so the other community is going to be affected by this. >> can i just ask you one question before we go? and this is important because a lot of these things happen out there. and law enforcement can't find it. and a lot of people who work in tech don't want to work in law enforcement because they think