we can make more secure elections. >> there's a million different ways to interact with this thing. >> exploring what's going on. >> this is the tssx, it's used in 18 different states. eight of which are swing states. it's going to start rebooting. you're going to see it's having trouble rebooting because there's no card reader. and now you have full admin access on this machine. you can disrupt the election, people's confidence in the election. when you think about admin access, you can think about keys to the castle. you own the machine. you can get it to do what you want it to do. you can imagine that being very nefarious. >> the u.s. election is so complex that we humans cannot do a manual account. we're dishonest and error prone. we have to use machines. while we know that the machines are hackable, the question is