somebody that, again, is asymmetric in his loyalty. the people know that. the overwhelming flood of texts, phone conversations, and support last night from people that are actually inside the white house, up on capitol hill, former elected officials, current people in positions of power, current elected officials is truly staggering. and so -- >> who? can you give us any names? can you give us any names or characterize the types of people? >> john, it's not fair. but at some point these people will have the courage to speak up on their own. somebody said to me last night -- and there are detractors, too, i want to be balanced here. why did i leak something to axios. i didn't leak anything. it was a totally different thing -- >> i'm trying to get a sense of -- obviously you're not an elected official, but who do you