southern district of new york and eastern district of new york. this is mind-boggling. look, the mcc was built in 1975. it was built with the capacity of 456 inmates. they are now just under 800 inmates. so i understand the short staff issue here, but poppy, this raises so many questions about why all these failures happened. it almost a cascading set of failures to cause something unthinkable like this to happen. >> it sounds like you're saying because of this cascading of events, understaffing, clearly in positions that perhaps they weren't ready to be doing or trained for, that a high profile death or a death like this was inevitable. >> right. so three things we look at in the criminal justice system, the first part is enforcement which i'm infantly familiar with, then the prosecution part and then the corrections part. poppy, any time we cut budgets,
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