than coachella. >> it does, and we have such sort of mythic reverence for it, which has evolved over the years. >> of course. >> i went back and tried to talk to as many people who played it and organized it and went, and it was less about the music and more about this human connection piece of it, you know? woodstock isn't woodstock unless the fences go down, tickets are worthless. they ran out of food the second day. you had these guys from a commune in mexico, the hog farm, wavy gravy. this was a hippie fema. it's counter to what you're used to. >> it's the forerunner of the fire festival except there was actually music. this was actually much better organized. >> i said to this generation, you complain about cheese sandwiches? grandma was in the mud with a head of cabbage. but i wore my ralph lauren tie dye shirt today as a symbol of some people saw those hippies as