that this was in america's interest to release this aid to ukraine. of course it would take several more weeks before the president actually did that after he learned about that whistle-blower complaint and of course after the house began investigating that whistle-blower complaint. the president had also begun hearing from senate republicans about these allegations of a quid pro quo. >> jeremy, thank you very much. let's talk about a all of this. rachael bade joins us. she's a reporting with "the washington post." cnn political commentator joe lockhart who was president clinton's press secretary during his impeachment. appreciate you both being here. hope you got a bit of rest last week. well, the article is fascinating. it is striking. 84 days of so much happening. this is the part that struck us. let me read it. quote, opposition to the order from his top national security advisers was more intense than previously known in late august. mark esper joined mike pompeo