months or years in prison, what is that going to get you and that is a question that criminal defendants target subjects face all the time and based on what we know, this individual will have to confront here. >> glenda, does it make sense to you, this whole loyalty thing to this person? >> his core staff and allen weisselberg, one of them, shortly -- loyalty, he puts a great emphasis on. going to jail, that's the ultimate test and his own daughter-in-law, you know, former daughter-in-law, she said something very interesting. she said the way that the kirks and benefits are handed out is