that means that a majority of the republican conference would not sit down and talk to the mother of officer sicknick who died trying to protect them, john. >> you can vote the way you want to vote in the end, kind of indefensible to not sit down with a grieving mother who came all the up there to ask for a few minutes of your time. jamie gangel, thank you for your time. moments ago senator susan collins of maine said this. >> we owe it to the brave men and women who defended our lives that day. and in some cases, did so at the cost of their lives. and that's why i feel so strongly about that. >> cnn chief congressional correspondent manu raju up on capitol hill. you tried with the leader there at the top, took him a long time to give you a short answer. what's the math right now, if you look everything i've looked