minds. so they got to decide how heavily do they go in behind the united states or how much independence they try to retain and that is an ongoing issue. i think what we have heard from leaders so far is they want to hear concrete facts and substance from president biden around the table more than just sort of rhetoric we have heard so far that this is a time to align more strongly behind the united states. >> susan, nic raises a trill underlying point that we have to keep in mind. i want to mention a quote in your book. quote.
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