road you're on right now, there will be more serious repercussions. and we will not tolerate attacks on our elections. we will not tolerate cyber attacks on our companies, attacks on our allies, and we will not stay silent about human rights abuses. i think one of the most important messages that biden can deliver to putin in geneva, mr. putin, let alexei navalny go. and there are other dissidents locked up in russia. let them go. this is something trump would have ignored. biden can't ignore it and he has to playing it a major part of his meeting with putin. >> then, what does a successful meeting look like? he is laughing off hacking attempts. he won't even garon see alexei navalny will stay alive in prison. what is a successful meeting? >> it is a meeting where he