a lot of people have seen it. you said he started asking you personal questions. you don't like to talk to people on flights. when did you realize that something here was suspicious? >> well, victor, you don't realize it until later. it took me so long to put everything together. when i sat on the flight, the seat next to me was completely empty. he joined right before the door closed. a lot of people are saying he had on a helmet and knee pads and elbow pads. he only had on a helmet but he had on a baseball cap under the helmet so you think maybe he rode a scooter or something. nothing too weird. he sat down. he was very familiar with the flight attendants. he ordered a specialty drink, whispered in her ear, gets very comfortable, takes his face mask off, says, hey, i'm vaccinated, but my name is stephen. what's your name, what do you do, where do you live? all these questions. so eventually he starts asking for my business card or my phone number and i didn't give him