survive in michigan politics? >> fred upton has survived for a long period of time and fred has not changed, the party has changed. i think it's harder and harder for moderate republicans to call the gop home and that's why i want to make sure that we continue to do that outreach and support anyone who wants to work to find common ground on the problems that we are all confronting, right? getting our economy back to full strength. we're making great strides. we need to work at this together, but the fringe is not going to lead the way. we've got to find people of good will to find that common ground and fred upton has done a great job and i hope he's got a long career ahead of him. >> governor gretchen whitmer, thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you. let's talk more now about the pandemic's path here in the united states and for that we bring in dr. sanjay gupta who is of course our chief medical correspondent and the host of "chasing life" which is a great podcast, he's also the author of a brand-new book out in october "world war c: lessons from the