that what it is? [ laughter ] >> well, of course, that's not what it is. you know, critical race theory is basically an academic discipline that was started by law professors in the '70s and '80s that intended to look at the reasons why there is so much of a gap between promises of american equality, the promises of the 13th and 14th amendment and our ability to realize those promises in real and material ways. sometimes we like to talk about it in terms that acknowledge that race itself is a fiction but racism is very real. what role has law played over the course of history in makes race real and in coding racism into our institutions? and that is basically been what we've been doing but look, i think it's important that we not fall into the trap of trying to define what crt is because