that what it is? >> well, of course that's not what it is. you know, critical race theory is basically an academic discipline that was started by law professors in the '70s and '80s that intended to look at the reasons why there is so much of a gap between promises of american equality, the promises of the 13th and the 14th amendment, and our ability to realize those promises in real and material ways. sometimes we like to talk about it in terms that acknowledge that race is itself a fiction, but racism is very real. what role has law played over the course of our history in making race real and encoding racism into our institutions? and that's basically been what we've been doing. but, look, i think it's important that we not fall into the trap of trying to define what crt is because that's what they want us to do. what's important is to focus on