working effectively the way it should be but i want to talk about put aid aside and for instance talk about the fact that are we having the conversation about what's happening when multinationals are evading taxes to the point that those amounts far exceed what comes in via eight that's the money that's supposed to go into developing our continent and then we then talk about aid in the fact that europeans need to give us aid and we talk about forty billion figures dollar figures for example but in actual fact we need to have a conversation about money that's being siphoned out of the country and of course we've got capital cities like london who facilitate tech savings to help multinationals steal money that's supposed to develop the continent so i think that's also a conversation with having just briefly if you would because governance was mentioned you come from zimbabwe certainly you've had a decades of experience with bad governance can africa can african civil society partner with europe in a way that can truly effectively fight that kind of corruption and mismanagement