so tickling is abuse. seen as torture in some cultures. [ laughter ] >> bill: dumbness of massa is the whole thing? the fact is why did he put himself out in the public eye when all this stuff was out? >> bill: just made it worse. >> just made it worse. i feel sorry for his wife. >> bill: so do i? for his family. >> i do, too. >> bill: dan rather gets in trouble for a watermelon analogy. roll the tape. >> look at the health care bill, number one priority, took him forever to get it through. he had to compromise it to death and a version of, listen, he is a nice person, very articulate. this is going to be used against him. but he couldn't sell watermelons if you gave him. >> bill: now that water melon thing got him criticism. here is what rather replied to the criticism of him.