everybody. local governments talking about slashing budgets and unions spending millions to stop the cuts. who has it right? >> they price them out of the job market. higher wages, more benefits, job security. case in point, milwaukee school district, we find out that the city of milwaukee is broke, they went to the school, the union and they said, hey, you into he had to do is some negotiating with us on health care, the union without asking the teachers said, beat it. what happened is, milwaukee laid off 480 teachers and then, the teachers found out and they said hey, we would have negotiated, but the union said don't worry and turned, mr. barack obama, do us a favor, bail us out. that's bending and bottom line, they're using us to bail out their bad decisions. >> okay, julian, tell eric why he's wrong. >> well, for a number of reasons, but, first of all, you'd expect unions to be lobbying to protect their job,
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