had experience advertise that could help out in this and he left, as soon as it was clear to him they were going to be able to start bringing these guys up, he said this is their moment, this is chile's moment, i've done what i needed to do, and he was very excited for them and is going to be watching it all on tv, but he said i'm not here on this situation, i'm going to let these people have the glory of having pulled this off. and you hope, and it's in a continually positive way. bill: years ago for the younger people in our audience, they will not remember this, i think it was september 1987, was it baby jessica, she fell down a well in texas? >> martha: it was a similar feeling. bill: she was down there for days. that was long before we had even a possibility you could have communication down in the hole, a tunnel, or let alone a camera. and the day she emerged, it was at nighttime, i think it was around 8:00 at night, the sun had fallen, it was a dark american fall evening and she came up and was handed to that rescuers and it was like wow! there is hope again. martha: and across the upbts
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