they are illegal immigrants or aliens. one more reason why there should not be a national association of hispanic journalists or an association of black journalists or gay journalists or women journalists. because too often they put journalism second and the interests of their particular group first. and these groups, and this is a very important point, these groups are all liberal groups. and american journalism wasn't as liberal two or three decades ago as it is today but as these groups first came into existence, came into the newsroom and then started exerting influence in the newsroom, american journalism moved further and further to the left. and in this case, as we both know, they have an agenda and the agenda very simply is let's call them undocumented because that sort of sounds like a bureaucratic hangup type thing.