>> well, you know, what i think we have done in the affordable care act is improve medicare. the republican plan is to end medicare. i support keeping medicare intact. we need to improve it, we need to do bulk purchasing of pharmaceuticals and to rein in fraud. and continue the efforts that we made in aca to strengthen medicare. but not to end it. the public doesn't want that. martha: pardon me for interrupting, but there's an interesting editorial in today's "wall street journal", and it was written by one of the trustees of social -- of secret -- of social security, excuse me, and medicare. and he claims that under the obama medical program under the health care reform act that, in fact, people 65 and over would see their benefits slunk by $-- shrunk by $36,000 as soon as the plan kicks in, and that is basically the equivalent of losing three years of benefits. so what they're saying is the pain for seniors would actually start right away in 2014, and
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