cutting domestic programs and investments important to working families. >> shannon: you talked about the belt tightening. that is something that both parties agree on. where do we tighten the belt? >> right. i think there are opportunities for us to build in -- build in efficiencies. for instance, bulk purchasing of pharmaceutical needs for the medicare program. making certain that we look at contractors, sub contractors for the defense department and the pentagon. there are people making tremendous columns of profit on our investment in the war and i think that those area need to be certainly closer scrutinized and we also need to make certain that we discard programs that are no longer useful. making search that we go after fraud. there are documentations of fraud being addressed in the medicare program in the recent past weeks. one example comes to find where with ct chest scans we could