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>> bob: that's all i'll say. >> greg: debt ceiling debate is a woody allen film. it never ends, all talk no, action. at the end you want to shoot yourself in the face. >> kimberly: want to see "midnight in paris"? >> greg: absolutely. after work. i disagree with what reagan said. great president but i disagree. the debt ceiling debate is different from what it was in the past. light now is a spasm of self-preservation, you are seeing a government fighting for more food when we should be starving it to death. that is the problem. let me finish. the federal job, the study came out and saw you are more likely to die than to lose your job. >> kimberly: can you believe that study? >> greg: this is why the debt ceiling debate is important. >> dana: federal government employee, very specific. one thing i remember back to when i just left, come to washington. right after the 9/11 attacks. i was at the justice department. we would walk by this woman every day. she would come in, in the morning. a civil servant and sign in on her computer, send a couple

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