billion. look at that in up that is reason we have a growing debt. president obama says we need to raise taxes to cover that. i don't think so. it's the spending that is the problem. this chart shows how much this administration has spent adjusted for inflation. spending rose during every administration. then exploded under presidents bush and obama. so because of those increases the president says we need to increase revenue. no way says grover nor quist who heads americans for tax reform. some say it's because of you and your pledge. >> i think there isn't a tax increase on the table is that 235 members of the house of representatives never to raise taxes, 41 senators did. so we have quite a number of house in the senate and many of