schools will be hurt. >> dana: too big to fail. >> bob: not just students. athletes making a choice between ohio state and penn state are probably going to choose ohio state now. >> kimberly: why would you go there? this school is supposed to be about honor and integrity. thatvy a black mark on them because of this. if one of them showed moral and ethical leadership they would be in a different situation. more importantly untold numbers of young boys would not have been molested. >> andrea: what is ironic if you look at the football team and the way that paterno had it, no name on the back. no stickers on the helmet. he wanted them to operate as a team so individual players wouldn't get the glory. like the team, that well-intended, you know, action, somehow everything about the team got bigger and the man got bigger. >> bob: give penn state credit. they haven't done the ridiculous things, the glow and the socks, two did that? oregon, the ducks.