zany is not what we need in a president. zany is great in a campaign. it's great on talk radio. it's great in the print. it beats, makes for fun reading. but in terms of a president, we need a leader. leader needs to be someone who can bring americans together. >> they should run their campaign the bay they want to. i'll run my campaign the way i want to. >> the numbers are more or less what many of us in our campaign expected. because we have been working to that end and organizing and doing the things we're supposed to do. >> bret: governor mitt romney calling newt gingrich zany in an interview with the "new york times." there you saw congressman paul talk about his numbers which are surging in iowa according to local polls. also on the move perhaps, texas governor rick perry. we talked about his outsider status.