that's all -- we just -- she is somewhere. gregg: if he was lying at that point in time he's a pretty good actor i guess. did you -- did you ever believe his story? >> no, not for a second. gregg: why? >> well, for one thing to say that he woke his children up at midnight and took them camping on a sunday night was absolutely ridiculous. i know susan, she was a wonderful mother and she would never have allowed her children to go out camping in the wintertime at midnight. i knew right away that that was immediately not true. gregg: did you ever confront him? >> yes. one time he was at my house about probably a few weeks after she disappeared and i said, josh, what do you have against talking to the police? why won't you go and talk to them? if you're innocent, what do you have to hide? what are you worried about? and he wouldn't answer me. he just looked at the ground and didn't say anything. gregg: he didn't answer at all, nothing. >> no, no he didn't.
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