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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - FOXNEWS - 20120206:15:35:00

that's all -- we just -- she is somewhere. gregg: if he was lying at that point in time he's a pretty good actor i guess. did you -- did you ever believe his story? >> no, not for a second. gregg: why? >> well, for one thing to say that he woke his children up at midnight and took them camping on a sunday night was absolutely ridiculous. i know susan, she was a wonderful mother and she would never have allowed her children to go out camping in the wintertime at midnight. i knew right away that that was immediately not true. gregg: did you ever confront him? >> yes. one time he was at my house about probably a few weeks after she disappeared and i said, josh, what do you have against talking to the police? why won't you go and talk to them? if you're innocent, what do you have to hide? what are you worried about? and he wouldn't answer me. he just looked at the ground and didn't say anything. gregg: he didn't answer at all, nothing. >> no, no he didn't.

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concerned about the welfare, what they are saying is the fact that they believe these kids could be in danger of this individual, even if it is a parent. so instead of the court saying, don't let the kids go back to the house they allowed visitation, and as we saw yesterday it ended up very horrificly. gregg: finding pornography on josh powell's computer and being worried about the welfare of the kids in that respect, that is quite different than murder, isn't it? >> well, it is quite different, but, again, gregg you have to look at the totality of everything that's been going on. this wasn't just a normal custody battle. we're talking an individual that was already named as a person of interest with the fact that his wife was missing and believed dead. we're talking an individual that has had a number of other issues. the courts have already stated back in september of last year that they didn't think this guy should have the kids. and the kids were given to the parents of the woman. at that point there was a lot more involved in this case and i

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powell, here it is. >> closer for us would have been all the answers coming forward, all the questions resolved. there is no answers any more. unless josh told something to somebody else, or he had an accomplice, those answers are gone with him. gregg: rod, did the answers to what happened to susan powell likely die with josh powell. >> they likely did. there is not a whole lot of more information the police can learn pep maybe they can find susan's body at some point. they never have found her body. yesterday's event was more tragic. the more interesting question here, tkpw*eg is whether or not the courts missed the warning signs with josh powell. gregg: were there? >> i think they did. i think there were a number of warning signs actually. last week at the hearing there was a custody battle last week on wednesday of last week and the police testified that they were concerned about the welfare, gregg, of the two little boys. whenever a police officer or an investigator says that they are

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getting too independent and not afraid of him any more, and possibly he just -- i know she's told me in the past that when they would have arguments and fights about things and talk about divorce he would say thins, like you're not getting the kids unless it's over my dead body. gregg: was he physically abusive with her? >> not that i ever saw or that she ever told me. she said that he did push her once, but she didn't tell me that he hit her. he was very verbally abusive and put her down a lot. gregg: yeah. if i may i want to play a sound byte of josh powell and this i believe was shortly after susan vanished. so this would have been december of 2009. take a listen to this. >> do you have any idea what happened to her? >> no. thank you. any help to try to find her would be appreciated so, really

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - FOXNEWS - 20120206:14:56:00

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think the courts probably, gregg, should have allowed visitation at the courthouse, at the police department, at a more neutral location until this matter could have been sorted out. gregg: rod wheeler, thank you very much for being with us. we'll continue talking about this story now. joining us on the telephone susan powell's friend. thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you. gregg: our condolences go out to you for the loss of your friend, and now this on top of it. what's your reaction to these events? >> it's just horrifying. it feels freshly all over again just like the day we learned that susan disappeared. gregg: are you pretty convinced that josh powell killed susan? >> i have believed that for a longtime, yes. gregg: and talk to us a bit more about that. i mean, why would he do such a thing? >> i don't know why he would have, unless he felt like he was losing control, and that she was

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - FOXNEWS - 20120206:14:03:00

to hurt a whole lot of people at the time he ended it for himself and so he took the boys with him. >> reporter: those two boys were given to chuck and judy coax who always believed josh had something to do with susan's disappearance. martha: does this end the missing person's investigation, dan? >> reporter: it does not. utah police are on the way to washington police to see if they can find the truth but the truth may have died with josh powell. washington state officials will look into what happened with the case. could the caseworker have done something different. of course they're saying he had two supervised visits a week. this was supposed to be supervised. the caseworker was supposed to be inside the house. she could not get inside the house. there will be investigation into that. the officials said yesterday there was no indication the children were in any danger. martha. martha: you think about the cox family and all they have gone through with their daughter missing in this case and now to have lost these two grandchildren as well, it is so tragic.

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gregg: investigators on the scene of a deadly home explosion in washington state, the husband of a utah woman who vanished two years ago killed himself and the couple's two children in that tragic event. shibanjosh powell was the only person of interest after his wife disappeared in december of 2009. they say he blew up his home yesterday while his two boys were visiting in the company of a social worker. they had been staying with their grandparents who had temporary custody. reports say the young boy had started remembering details of the night their mother went missing when their father took them to a mysterious camping trip in a blizzard. rod wheeler, a fox news contributor joins us. i want to play a sound byte of the brother-in-law of josh

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gregg: not even a denial? >> no. gregg: did you take it so far as to say, i know you killed her? >> no, i didn't say that, and the reason i didn't is because i hoped that if i could still be a friend to him that at some point he would open up and tell us something. gregg: yeah. did you -- can you tell us about any other conversations that you had with susan in which, you know, perhaps she feared for her life and expressed that to you? >> um, in the summer ever 2008 about a year and a half before she disappeared things were really bad. josh was so controlling that he wouldn't even give her money to go to the store to buy food and she was the one who was making all the money. and he went and talke she went and talked to a divorce lawyer, she made some plans about getting her own bank account, she said things were really bad and she wanted to save her marriage and didn't want to break up her family but if he was not willing to do anything to be the kind of person that she thought he was, then she

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