class, total you? are saying, everybody you know from your years, same major, same year, pre-law and poly-sci, whatever it was. >> poly-sci. >> sean: nobody knew him -- not one person saw him, heard of him. >> i was a pretty connected guy. i knew pretty much everyone, i thought in the political science department. i never met him. i never saw him. i never heard of him. nobody i know at columbia ever met him, heard of him or saw him. it's strange. it doesn't mean he didn't go there. he was probably busy smoking pot and attending socialist meetingses. what can i tell you? >> the wall street journal called 400 people -- how many people near a class, how many? thousands? >> the whole class was 700 students. i figure class of '83, columbia, 700. political science, pre-law, 200, 250. i was pretty familiar with most of them. never heard of him. >> sean: you are not doubting he