childhood in, building tree forts, capture the flag, all of that, so i snuck through the woods. >> bill: so "new york times" reporter would be able to keep up with you? >> i'm an outdoorsy guy anyway, i know those woods like the back of my hand, and i flew out to virginia. >> bill: you've been in congress 14 years, at this meeting with governor romney. what are you talking about in terms of him asking you to be his running mate? >> it was one of the most moving conversations i've had with everybody. he told me where he thought the country was headed, how we got to back on track, his life story, what in his heart. he basically said, you share my values, you have the kind of experience i'm going to need to help me fix this country's problems. our experiences complement each other quite well. we affl apply the same principlo the problems of the day. he basically said, let's fix this country. >> bill: that's how he asked