if we don't get prices down to compete, all this business is going to go elsewhere. >> that's agreed but that's not the issue. the fact is that you have automation on the docks. you don't have containers that go right from the ships to the trucks as you know all up and down the coast and we have the panama canal now, bigger than ever. >> that's what they're fighting, automation. >> no, they're saying -- >> fred mcmahon said they're fighting automation. >> no, they're not. >> the machines have taken over but the point is the workers should get a share of royalties. there's no reason. >> why should the workers get a share of a business that they aren't ownership? >> because they -- >> they don't have a downsize risk. >> they got downsized hugely. the workforce has been decimated. >> juan, should i have a share in the profitability of fox news? >> if you buy stock.