billionaires, people who make over $400,000. that would be removed from the equation and then you could get down to some spending and entitlement reforms, which is really what the republican party wants to do. >> does the republican party want to be the party that says to the most productive, the fred smith of fedex, the late steve jobs that if you achieve, if you try something great commercially that improves our lives and employs us, we're going to penalize you for doing it i don't think that should the message for the republican party. kweupbdz -- republicans are supposed to be about growth and enterprise. this is them saying the opposite. >> you've got people saying there was a lost growth during the clinton years and the top rate, was that 3 9%? >> i would say if you give