>> bill: as you may know president obama wants former republican senator chuck hagel to be the new secretary of defense. some gay americans are fiercely objecting to that saying hagel demeaned homosexuals in the past. here is what happened. 1998 then senator hagel commented on a video james hormel mucking it up with the militant sisters anti-catholic gay group in san francisco. hagel objected to that exposition and opposed hormel's nomination as the u.s. ambassador to luxembourg. ultimately bill clinton did send him to luxenberg. his mounts comments are now coming back to haunt him. this is a little complicated. hagel was objecting to this guy hormel, who was sitting on a news set yucking it up with these militant people out in san francisco. he didn't think that was good.