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gentleman from new jersey for one minute. >> gentleman's recognized for one minute. >> madam speaker, i rise today, a time of grave concern for all americans. this past weekend, i joined a bipartisan delegation traveling to belgium, to luxembourg, for the 75th anniversary of the battle of the bulge. a battle over 19,000 americans gave their lives. today, we are called to preserve that democracy they so bravelily defended. over two years ago, i was one of the first members in congress to vote to advance the inquiry. since then, i have withheld final judgment as i review the facts. and heard the testimony. i believe there is overwhelming evidence, well beyond reasonable doubt, that president donald trump is guilty in both articles of impeachment. abuse of power and obstruction
so -- yeah. i never noticed there was a bad ass in ambassador. that's really cool. there is, though. >> is there? >> there have been worse ambassadors. cynthia strong the ambassador to luxembourg, spent tons of government money on booze and luxury housing. o.j. simpson -- >> are you complaining about that? >> i'm saying there have been worse ambassadors. >> how about o.j. simpson? he was the hertz rental car brand ambassador. he'd never been inside a hertz rental car, and he cut his wife's head off, so that's a way worse ambassador. >> you've made a point there. by the way, that's not necessarily a recent reference. >> i did it because you did your o.j. simpson joke. >> all right, joann. as a former new york, miss north korea -- new york, who lives in jersey. >> i'm from new jersey. but i represented new york at miss usa.
>> bill: as you may know president obama wants former republican senator chuck hagel to be the new secretary of defense. some gay americans are fiercely objecting to that saying hagel demeaned homosexuals in the past. here is what happened. 1998 then senator hagel commented on a video james hormel mucking it up with the militant sisters anti-catholic gay group in san francisco. hagel objected to that exposition and opposed hormel's nomination as the u.s. ambassador to luxembourg. ultimately bill clinton did send him to luxenberg. his mounts comments are now coming back to haunt him. this is a little complicated. hagel was objecting to this guy hormel, who was sitting on a news set yucking it up with
>> bill: as you may know president obama wants former republican senator chuck hagel to be the new secretary of defense. some gay americans are fiercely objecting to that saying hagel demeaned homosexuals in the past. here is what happened. 1998 then senator hagel commented on a video james hormel mucking it up with the militant sisters anti-catholic gay group in san francisco. hagel objected to that exposition and opposed hormel's nomination as the u.s. ambassador to luxembourg. ultimately bill clinton did send him to luxenberg. his mounts comments are now coming back to haunt him. this is a little complicated. hagel was objecting to this guy hormel, who was sitting on a news set yucking it up with these militant people out in san francisco. he didn't think that was good.
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these plans that envision almost endless conflict in the region are in the main opposed by people such as hagel. well, sam, you point and it may well be true you've done more work on this than i have. the sense that the vision is for almost an orwellian war in "1984," endless war in the middle east, is that the prospect that the neocons hold for us? >> i don't know if it's that stated, but it certainly is underlining a lot of what we're hearing about hagel now. a lot of the media attention has been on some of the past statements involving the jewish lobby as he called it, involving the gay ambassador to luxembourg, but those are sort of side shows. what this comes down to is the future of obama's foreign policy. chuck hagel in many ways represents the clearest break yet by this administration from the george w. bush era foreign policy. keep in mind the president continued a lot of these bush era programs. we haven't really had a substantive comprehensive conversation about what went wrong in iraq. chuck hagel's nomination
won't vote for him. john cor zion and others are uneasy with comments opposing james hormel the ambassador to luxembourg for being openly aggressively gay and also his stance on israel. it looks like a rookery reception on both sides of the aisle when he has his hearings in washington. >> shannon: and jamie, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell says he's going to get a fair shake. he's going to get the tough questions, but we'll treat him fairly. sometimes covering washington ahead of the hearings, folks will say it's an allout war. do you think it comes true this time? >> i think there's going to be serious questions from, certainly the republican side, but i also think the democratic side. you've had not just mitch mcconnell say that and
won't vote for him. john cor zion and others are uneasy with comments opposing james hormel the ambassador to luxembourg for being openly aggressively gay and also his stance on israel. it looks like a rookery reception on both sides of the aisle when he has his hearings in washington. >> shannon: and jamie, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell says he's going to get a fair shake. he's going to get the tough questions, but we'll treat him fairly. sometimes covering washington ahead of the hearings, folks will say it's an allout war. do you think it comes true this time? >> i think there's going to be serious questions from, certainly the republican side, but i also think the democratic side. you've had not just mitch mcconnell say that and
won't vote for him. john cor zion and others are uneasy with comments opposing james hormel the ambassador to luxembourg for being openly aggressively gay and also his stance on israel. it looks like a rookery reception on both sides of the aisle when he has his hearings in washington. >> shannon: and jamie, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell says he's going to get a fair shake. he's going to get the tough questions, but we'll treat him fairly. sometimes covering washington ahead of the hearings, folks will say it's an allout war. do you think it comes true this time? >> i think there's going to be serious questions from, certainly the republican side, but i also think the democratic side. you've had not just mitch mcconnell say that and
national security affairs. so there is general criticism from the left that democrats should stop bolstering the myth that republicans are stronger on defense because they're republicans, and therefore, only republicans should run defense even when a democrat is president. but there is also this one very specific criticism of chuck hagel individually. it's not a general criticism. it's about his record. back when it was mr. hagel who had the power to confirm presidential nominees or deny them, back when he was a united states senator, mr. hagel stood in opposition to president clinton's nominee to be the ambassador to luxembourg, a man named james hormel. senator hagel explained at the time that he was oppose odd to the nomination because mr. hormel was guy. he said to his hometown paper that ambassadors, quote are, representing america. they're representing our lifestyle, our values, our standards. and i think it is an inhibiting factor to be guy openly, aggressively guy like mr. hormel to do an effective job.