it's a blight, an economic bright on our society talking 600 billion dollars a year in welfare programs and they think this is humor and think this is something that we should reward and celebrate. we've reached a real new low. >> you've spent a lot of your adult life fighting against not only the stereo type, but in your own life, the struggle that came tu today leading an organization to help empower people to be on their own. >> that's right, i actually lived the life of the left seven years in and out of welfare dependency and i believed my problems were somebody else's fault. i believed that america was so inherently racist and seven years in and out of welfare, three and a half years consistently until a christian conversion changed my life, but you're right, i read urban cure.org what, we look at market based solutions to fight poverty. this is not helping, to celebrate what has broken down so horrifically in this particular community. i'm wondering if now we can