fighting before hand? >> a witness claims she heard fighting but was far away. >> bill: where was she in botswana? >> a thousand to 2,000 feet. >> bill: i have been to south africa. a chaotic place. >> 10% conviction rate. >> he could bell beat it. go to another chaotic place. chicago, illinois. >> i used to live in chicago. five years. >> bill: so there is a kid 15 years old. jesus castenada. little rowdy. being held on $250,000 bail for armed robby but has 19 other priors, correct. >> a little problem. >> and in chicago when you get charged with aggravated robbery or armed robbery as a 15-year-old you automatically get tried as an adult. >> bill: what happened the other 18 times? yes. >> was younger and the most recent crime was back in august